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Post by v9733xa on Jan 22, 2019 18:32:26 GMT -5
Let's goooooo.
It's time for the 2019 Oscars, the Academy Awards thread to end all threads (here's how quiet this board is: the thread from last year is still on the first page of posts on the movie board section  ).
This thread is for posting whatever you want about the films, the ones you loved or hated, the ones you think should have been nominated, the ones we all need to see first.
There are lots of great things to point out about the nominations, and I'll get to that in time, but first let's just get em all down!
Best Picture
Black Panther
BlacKkKlansman
Bohemian Rhapsody
The Favourite
Green Book
Roma
A Star Is Born
Vice
Actor in a Leading Role
Christian Bale, Vice
Bradley Cooper, A Star Is Born
Willem Dafoe, At Eternity’s Gate
Rami Malek, Bohemian Rhapsody
Viggo Mortensen, Green Book
Actress in a Leading Role
Yalitza Aparicio, Roma
Glenn Close, The Wife
Olivia Colman, The Favourite
Lady Gaga, A Star Is Born
Melissa McCarthy, Can You Ever Forgive Me?
Actress in a Supporting Role
Amy Adams, Vice
Marina de Tavira, Roma
Regina King, If Beale Street Could Talk
Emma Stone, The Favourite
Rachel Weisz, The Favourite
Actor in a Supporting Role
Mahershala Ali, Green Book
Adam Driver, BlacKkKlansman
Sam Elliott, A Star Is Born
Richard E. Grant, Can You Ever Forgive Me?
Sam Rockwell, Vice
Directing
BlacKkKlansman, Spike Lee
Cold War, Paweł Pawlikowski
The Favourite, Yorgos Lanthimos
Roma, Alfonso Cuarón
Vice, Adam McKay
Adapted Screenplay
The Ballad of Buster Scruggs, Joel Coen and Ethan Coen
BlacKkKlansman, Charlie Wachtel, David Rabinowitz, Kevin Willmott, and Spike Lee
Can You Ever Forgive Me?, Nicole Holofcener and Jeff Whitty
If Beale Street Could Talk, Barry Jenkins
A Star Is Born, Eric Roth, Bradley Cooper, and Will Fetters
Original Screenplay
The Favourite, Deborah Davis and Tony McNamara
First Reformed, Paul Schrader
Green Book, Nick Vallelonga, Brian Currie, and Peter Farrelly
Roma, Alfonso Cuarón
Vice, Adam McKay
Foreign Language Film
Capernaum, Lebanon
Cold War, Poland
Never Look Away, Germany
Roma, Mexico
Shoplifters, Japan
Animated Feature
Incredibles 2
Isle of Dogs
Mirai
Ralph Breaks the Internet
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
Original Score
Black Panther, Ludwig Göransson
BlacKkKlansman, Terence Blanchard
If Beale Street Could Talk, Nicholas Britell
Isle of Dogs, Alexandre Desplat
Mary Poppins Returns, Marc Shaiman
Original Song
“All the Stars,” Black Panther
“I’ll Fight,” RBG
“The Place Where Lost Things Go,” Mary Poppins Returns
“Shallow,” A Star Is Born
“When a Cowboy Trades His Spurs for Wings,” The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Documentary Short
Black Sheep
End Game
Lifeboat
A Night at the Garden
Period. End of Sentence.
Cinematography
Cold War, Lukasz Zal
The Favourite, Robbie Ryan
Never Look Away, Caleb Deschanel
Roma, Alfonso Cuarón
A Star Is Born, Matthew Libatique
Best Documentary Feature
Free Solo
Hale County This Morning, This Evening
Minding the Gap
Of Fathers and Sons
RBG
Production Design
Black Panther
The Favourite
First Man
Mary Poppins Returns
Roma
Sound Mixing
Black Panther
Bohemian Rhapsody
First Man
Roma
A Star Is Born
Costume Design
The Ballad of Buster Scruggs
Black Panther
The Favourite
Mary Poppins Returns
Mary Queen of Scots
Film Editing
BlacKkKlansman
Bohemian Rhapsody
The Favourite
Green Book
Vice
Sound Editing
Black Panther
Bohemian Rhapsody
First Man
A Quiet Place
Roma
Animated Short Film
Animal Behavior
Bao
Late Afternoon
One Small Step
Weekends
Live Action Short
Detainment
Fauve
Marguerite
Mother
Skin
Makeup and Hairstyle
Border
Mary Queen of Scots
Vice
Visual Effects
Avengers: Infinity War
Christopher Robin
First Man
Ready Player One
Solo: A Star Wars Story
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Post by v9733xa on Jan 22, 2019 18:39:51 GMT -5
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Post by v9733xa on Jan 22, 2019 18:58:33 GMT -5
Your odds, ends, and interesting facts:
~You probably already know this by now, but Black Panther is the first superhero film ever nominated for Best Picture.
~Alfonso Cuarón, for Roma, is the first person ever nominated for Best Direction and Best Cinematography in the same year.
~Sticking with directors, believe it or not this is (finally!) Spike Lee's first ever nomination for Best Direction; he's only had them for documentary and screenplay before - he's just the sixth black director ever nominated
~Got this from Vox: "The combined box office tally of the seven nominees we have data for (excluding Roma, which streams on Netflix and doesn’t have box office receipts) stands at $1,260,625,731, the most since 2011 and the first time the Best Picture lineup has cracked $1 billion since 2013."
~The nominations for Roma, Cold War, and Never Look Away in cinematography make 2019 the first year that the foreign language nominees have overlapped with any other category three times ever.
~With nominations for Yalitza Aparicio and Marina de Tavira in Roma, this marks the first time two Latina actresses are nominated in the same year.
~Original Song nominees “All The Stars” and “Shallow” also both nominated at the Grammys for Record and Song of the Year. The last song to be nominated for all three was “Lose Yourself” in 2003, which won the Oscar.
~Lady Gaga in A Star Is Born follows Mary J. Blige (Mudbound) last year as only the 2nd person ever to earn an acting nomination and Original Song nod in the same year.
~Amy Adams and Christian Bale have co-starred together now three times (Vice, American Hustle, The Fighter) and both have been nominated every time.
~At 6 and 7, respectively, Adams and Glenn Close (The Wife) are the most-nominated living actresses to never win (yet).
~Melissa McCarthy becomes the second lead actress to hit Best Actress at the Oscars (Can You Ever Forgive Me?) and Worst Actress at the Razzies (The Happytime Murders and Life of the Party) in the same season. QUIZ: Who was the first?!
~Mirai is the first Best Animated Feature nominee from Japan to not be produced or animated by Studio Ghibli.
~This is my favorite, i'm stealing this from awardswatch.com: "Viggo Mortensen’s nomination for Green Book is the first time he hasn’t been the sole nominee for his film and his first that he didn’t show his penis in."
Snubs and other thoughts coming another time. I'll let you all discuss and catch up watching the films. Remember, there's less than 5 weeks!
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Post by essien on Jan 23, 2019 12:02:57 GMT -5
I feel like the Best Picture category is really weak this year aside from The Favourite and Roma. I'm just not interested in some of the films (namely Bohemian Rhapsody, A Star is Born and Black Panther). The other categories don't really jump out either. Burning should definitely have been nominated in the Foreign Language Film category. I've made a Letterboxd list of the nominated films that I want to see but haven't yet had the opportunity. |
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Post by stuartoxlade on Jan 25, 2019 5:09:51 GMT -5
Burning should definitely have been nominated in the Foreign Language Film category. ^This^ Think you're right though, Best Picture isn't much to shout about this year, although I did get a right chub over A Star is Born when I saw it, and I really liked Green Book for what it was. Totally think Roma will win though. Is it fair that Roma is in 2 categories? (Best Picture and Best Foreign Film) I'm not even sure who might win Best Actor - Bale or Malek? Really hope Isle of Dogs wins best animated feature. Need to see some of these documentaries as well. Free Solo sounds awesome. Also need to check out Shoplifters when it gets a Blu-Ray release |
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Post by itschewthirty on Jan 25, 2019 10:16:00 GMT -5
I feel like the Best Picture category is really weak this year aside from The Favourite and Roma. I'm just not interested in some of the films (namely Bohemian Rhapsody, A Star is Born and Black Panther). The other categories don't really jump out either. Burning should definitely have been nominated in the Foreign Language Film category. I've made a Letterboxd list of the nominated films that I want to see but haven't yet had the opportunity. I just can't believe that Toni Collette didn't even get an Oscar nod for her performance in Hereditary. And Black Panther being nominated for Best Picture? What a travesty. |
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Post by essien on Jan 25, 2019 14:17:08 GMT -5
I feel like the Best Picture category is really weak this year aside from The Favourite and Roma. I'm just not interested in some of the films (namely Bohemian Rhapsody, A Star is Born and Black Panther). The other categories don't really jump out either. Burning should definitely have been nominated in the Foreign Language Film category. I've made a Letterboxd list of the nominated films that I want to see but haven't yet had the opportunity. I just can't believe that Toni Collette didn't even get an Oscar nod for her performance in Hereditary. Disappointed but not surprised. The Academy has no respect for the horror genre, sadly. |
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Post by v9733xa on Jan 31, 2019 19:55:25 GMT -5
Okay it's been over a week so it's time to get to some more thoughts.
Specifically, snubs, because that's all anybody talks about the first couple weeks and then just focuses on who's gonna win. So let's do that.
Best Picture
SURPRISES? For a lot of these categories, you could see the nominees coming, so if you're in the loop many of the nominations aren't complete shocks. But I'm still dumbfounded at the praise for the mediocre Bohemian Rhapsody and the laughably disingenuous horseshit of Green Book. People like "feel good" movies, I guess, and these are two of those for sure. Also, Black Panther I will defend as being here, even though I can name 50 better movies this year, because it was just a big goddamn deal and other than Into the Spider-Verse easily the best superhero movie of the year.
SNUBS! It really sucks to see First Reformed not here, but I get it. If Beale Street Could Talk is probably the most upsetting snub though, just because it's a great movie that also happens to be Oscar bait.
Actor in a Leading Role
SURPRISES? Honestly, none really. Viggo's a fine actor but I just don't like him in this movie. But I expected the nomination. Dafoe is a little bit of a surprise, but an actor nom for a film no one has seen (I did!) happens every year.
SUNBS! Missing Ethan Hawke from First Reformed really made me upset, as it was the only acting spot the film may have earned, and he is tremendous in a dark and thought-provoking movie. I know weirdos wanted Nic Cage for Mandy -- which was a great movie -- but it broke the rules by streaming and releasing at the same time so it wasn't allowed. The completely snubbed film You Were Never Really Here means that Joaquin got snubbed too. Same goes for the lovely and affecting Ben Foster in Leave No Trace.
Actress in a Leading Role
SURPRISES? I love seeing Yalitza Aparicio here, and I wasn't expecting it. I think that speaks volumes for Roma and contribute to it cleaning up the awards. All of these are great nominations and I wish the category could be bigger. No complaints.
SNUBS! None really, since these are so good. But I'll mention Carey Mulligan in Wildlife, what was probably the best performance of her career. And a shoutout to Elsie Fisher, even though she didn't have a chance at a nomination for Eighth Grade, still blew me away. Gucci!
Actress in a Supporting Role
SURPRISES? I fucking LOVE that Marina de Tavira got a nomination here, as she is sensational in that movie. That was amazing and thrilled me to hear that. The rest are also very good... but I'm not as big on Amy Adams here as many others are. It was no shock though.
SNUBS! Honestly... none? There really aren't any other female supporting roles I can think of this year that could have knocked any of these out. The Academy got this category right big time.
Actor in a Supporting Role
SURPRISES? Again, my disdain for Green Book didn't mean I didn't know nominations were coming, especially for the acting, and in a bad film Mahershala Ali is pretty good. Sam Rockwell honestly is nothing special in Vice, a funny movie that is mostly SNL impressions of Republicans but with way better makeup and hairstyling. He should not be here.
SNUBS! Hugh Grant! People completely forgot about the magical Paddington 2 that came out a year ago, and it showed, as he was the best thing about that movie and is one of the biggest snubs of the year.
Directing
SURPRISES? It's nice to see a more diverse choice, except women of course. None of these are shocking, but McKay has made like 5 better movies than Vice so he took a spot many many others deserved more.
SNUBS! Like, a lot of directors. Paul Schrader for First Reformed, Chloe Zhao for The Rider, Lynne Ramsay for You Were Never Really Here, Boots Riley for Sorry to Bother You, Bo Burnham for Eighth Grade... many many more.
Adapted Screenplay
SURPRISES? This is a solid list, but I didn't expect the Coens here. Didn't see that movie (thanks Netflix) though. But also, the A Star is Born screenplay? Really? For the fifth iteration of a movie that's had the same basic story for 80 years? Really? Meh.
SNUBS! David Lowery and David Grann deserved some love for The Old Man & The Gun. Also, the under-appreciate indie film We the Animals had a tremendous screenplay based on a book, penned by Jeremiah Zagar and Daniel Kitrosser.
Original Screenplay
SURPRISES? Not really, but McKay should NOT be here. The rest are excellent and needed these nominations, especially Paul Schrader.
SNUBS! Like a hundred movies should be here instead of Vice: Brady Corbet for the wild and provacative Vox Lux and Boots Riley for the insane Sorry to Bother You are the two that jump out for me, but you could put Bo Burnham back here as well.
Foreign Language Film
SURPRISES? I've seen three of these, so I'll get back to you later, but the three I've seen are three of the best movies of the year. I had not heard of Never Looks Away before this, and it's getting the latest release date of all these films, but I've read it's tremendous.
SNUBS! Hard to say there are snubs when five really good films are here, but the sensational and jaw-dropping Korean film Burning is also one of the biggest snubs of the year for me. In my top three for the year. Borderline masterpiece.
Animated Feature
SURPRISES? All these were expected in a year that didn't really have a lot of great animated movies. No complaints.
SNUBS! None really.
Original Score
SURPRISES? All lovely scores here in films of varying quality, but I really love that the score from Black Panther got love here. The film is fine, but the music and technical aspects of it are top-class.
SNUBS! Kind of surprised to see The Favourite missing here for Komeil S. Hosseini's score. Also that weird Annihilation sound should have been nominated too.
Skipping some...
Best Documentary Feature
SURPRISES? I've heard that Of Fathers and Sons is really nothing special, but otherwise these are all good films.
SNUBS! The Snub of the Year is the missed nomination for one of the best documentaries of all time, Won't You Be My Neighbor?, so that one pissed me off.
I might have more general thoughts in a couple weeks, after I've seen everything I can get my hands on. In the meantime, keep posting your thoughts and let me know what you think.
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Post by essien on Feb 1, 2019 4:01:12 GMT -5
I've now seen all the Best Picture nominees that I was interested in. Here's my ranking:
1. Roma
2. BlackKklansman
3. The Favourite
4. Vice
5. Green Book
I'll do my picks for the other categories as and when I've seen the relevant films.
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Post by v9733xa on Feb 11, 2019 18:58:34 GMT -5
Today it was announced which awards will NOT be televised. For the first time in modern history, the show will not be broadcasting several of the award presentations. Previously an anathema for the Academy, in the interest of keeping the show a reasonable length (they really really do not want it over 3 hours), they've cut the following award presentations, regrettably:
Best Cinematography
Best Film Editing
Best Live Action Short
Best Makeup And Hairstyling
Oddly, but also perhaps fittingly, the Academy announced they might cut MORE of these next year -- as many as six -- but have promised not to make any of those cuts one of the four above. So, even though they want to retain viewers who apparently don't care about those important categories, they also don't want to offend the nominees two years in a row.
Lose/lose, for sure.
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Post by stuartoxlade on Feb 12, 2019 7:49:33 GMT -5
I've never bothered to sit through the televised awards. Do people ramble on too long in their speeches or something? or is there just too much to cover?
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Post by v9733xa on Feb 12, 2019 18:22:24 GMT -5
I've never bothered to sit through the televised awards. Do people ramble on too long in their speeches or something? or is there just too much to cover? It's a long show, and it's hard to blame one element.
Some people blame the speeches, but most really aren't that long, and occasionally they're very good so the Academy doesn't want to cut them off much, especially for celebrities people want to see. But, yes, most people don't care about what the winner for Best Live Action Short Film says, and yet he or she gets to speak like anyone else (although the music will start playing pretty soon).
Some people blame the amount of awards, 24 in total plus a lifetime achievement award, and that they are all (until now) televised. The Grammy's have something like 61 awards but only broadcast NINE the other night. But the Oscars has always been about the sanctity of every category.
And some people (including me) blame the superfluous fluff and nonsense in the show. I'm not there for jokes; i'm there for great movie clips, important films, and seeing who wins and what that winner says. A monologue i guess is nice, but like in a baseball game the longest delays aren't to start every inning, they're for each and every goddamn pitch. And in the show, there are silly sketches and tributes (the In Memoriam one is the only one worthwhile) and just tons and tons of dead time or meaningless banter in the middle that really makes it feel long.
All in all, it's just so much for one night. They don't need to attract people like me who will see 95% of all the nominated films; the Academy is trying to attract casual moviegoers and people who saw one or two of these (Black Panther was great, but SEVEN nominations?), and whatever things they can do to get those viewers is what they'll do. Viewership as been dropping basically for 20 years, like for many television shows, but they're trying their damnedest to make this the must-see event of the year.
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Post by tao on Feb 12, 2019 20:29:23 GMT -5
TBH, I’m in it only for the “In Memoriam” segment...
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Post by v9733xa on Feb 13, 2019 18:11:31 GMT -5
They just need to face the fact that fewer people watch live TV, and there are too many other things that compete with only so many pairs of eyes. It's all about the advertising dollar though, and they want that commercial revenue.
It's simply a different time. Almost 20 years ago, one show ran over FOUR HOURS and it still got over 40 million viewers. That will never happen again.
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Post by tao on Feb 13, 2019 21:12:02 GMT -5
They just need to face the fact that fewer people watch live TV, and there are too many other things that compete with only so many pairs of eyes. It's all about the advertising dollar though, and they want that commercial revenue. It's simply a different time. Almost 20 years ago, one show ran over FOUR HOURS and it still got over 40 million viewers. That will never happen again. Sad, isn’t it? |
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