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Post by Calvinball on Aug 27, 2017 14:02:51 GMT -5
A friend of mine lives in Texas and will be without power for the finale tonight, I'm gonna put it up on my PC so he can remote in on his phone and watch it like that.
Because that's what good friends do.
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Post by exokan on Aug 27, 2017 16:20:34 GMT -5
This season has been hit or miss for me. I really liked the river battle but the last episode absolutely did not work for me (the whole capture a zombie idea makes no sense... Cersei wouldn't care).
We'll see how they end this...
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Post by Calvinball on Aug 27, 2017 22:42:06 GMT -5
I had a lot of gripes and nitpicks about this season, and tonight's episode completely validated everything for me. Holy shit what a good finale.
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Post by sirmoshington on Aug 28, 2017 7:19:57 GMT -5
What a weak ass finale. All of it was so fucking predictable.
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Post by schmako on Aug 28, 2017 13:08:35 GMT -5
I thought it was alright, Sam & Bran scene was cool, the dragon scenes were still enjoyable (after playing undead on warcraft 3 I feel there is a lack of dragons..) but yeah I thought it could've been worse. |
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Post by sirmoshington on Aug 28, 2017 14:40:08 GMT -5
I thought it was alright, Sam & Bran scene was cool, the dragon scenes were still enjoyable (after playing undead on warcraft 3 I feel there is a lack of dragons..) but yeah I thought it could've been worse. I don't know man, its just super generic that they put the dragons on blast to bring some uninspired "thats badass" moments. Well and Sam & Bran scene was almost completely useless imo as the whole L+R = J theory is circulating since season 2 or 3, so yeah. And Littlefingers death was also super weak imo. He plotted the whole season and then they turned him over like that...meh. I've seen far better in the last seasons. The whole season didn't really have a WTF moment which made the whole show so awesome. Like Cersei not killing Jamie, that wouldn't have happened in season 1-6. And he betraying her was foreseeable since the season 6 finale. |
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Post by stuartoxlade on Aug 29, 2017 3:44:28 GMT -5
I thought it was alright, Sam & Bran scene was cool, the dragon scenes were still enjoyable (after playing undead on warcraft 3 I feel there is a lack of dragons..) but yeah I thought it could've been worse. I don't know man, its just super generic that they put the dragons on blast to bring some uninspired "thats badass" moments. Well and Sam & Bran scene was almost completely useless imo as the whole L+R = J theory is circulating since season 2 or 3, so yeah. And Littlefingers death was also super weak imo. He plotted the whole season and then they turned him over like that...meh. I've seen far better in the last seasons. The whole season didn't really have a WTF moment which made the whole show so awesome. Like Cersei not killing Jamie, that wouldn't have happened in season 1-6. And he betraying her was foreseeable since the season 6 finale. The problem the show has though given it's storytelling plot twists over the years is that it's too late to bring in any new characters at this stage (Unless you count this army that Euron has gone to win over as new?), so they either give them death scenes that will make the characters and their arcs seem worthwhile, or it'll feel wasted. In the case of Jaime, I'm glad Cersei didn't have him taken out. It would have been such a waste of his arc. They might as well have made him drown earlier in the season if Cersei was going to have him wasted like that.
As for the rest of the ep, for me it felt like a proper GoT episode. All piece moving for the final play in Season 8, everyone working together on the same page (Except for Cersei of course, she wants to be the new Lysa) and the Whites have finally started marching beyond the Wall.
I know why you might feel like the show hasn't had a WTF moment but it's spent 6 years doing that already and doesn't need to be a show full of constant surprises anymore. It's all about the end game now and see who will actually survive this Winter after all...
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Post by sirmoshington on Aug 29, 2017 9:12:59 GMT -5
I don't know man, its just super generic that they put the dragons on blast to bring some uninspired "thats badass" moments. Well and Sam & Bran scene was almost completely useless imo as the whole L+R = J theory is circulating since season 2 or 3, so yeah. And Littlefingers death was also super weak imo. He plotted the whole season and then they turned him over like that...meh. I've seen far better in the last seasons. The whole season didn't really have a WTF moment which made the whole show so awesome. Like Cersei not killing Jamie, that wouldn't have happened in season 1-6. And he betraying her was foreseeable since the season 6 finale. The problem the show has though given it's storytelling plot twists over the years is that it's too late to bring in any new characters at this stage (Unless you count this army that Euron has gone to win over as new?), so they either give them death scenes that will make the characters and their arcs seem worthwhile, or it'll feel wasted. In the case of Jaime, I'm glad Cersei didn't have him taken out. It would have been such a waste of his arc. They might as well have made him drown earlier in the season if Cersei was going to have him wasted like that.
As for the rest of the ep, for me it felt like a proper GoT episode. All piece moving for the final play in Season 8, everyone working together on the same page (Except for Cersei of course, she wants to be the new Lysa) and the Whites have finally started marching beyond the Wall.
I know why you might feel like the show hasn't had a WTF moment but it's spent 6 years doing that already and doesn't need to be a show full of constant surprises anymore. It's all about the end game now and see who will actually survive this Winter after all...
Yeah I dunno maybe I'm being overly critical but it just didn't feel like the older seasons. There was just so much "filler" in recent past in the style of working towards the shows finale, that there is just so much anticipation building up and I'm almost certain they can't put up to that. I could be wrong but atm I'm just skeptical hippo. |
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Post by stuartoxlade on Aug 29, 2017 10:17:35 GMT -5
The problem the show has though given it's storytelling plot twists over the years is that it's too late to bring in any new characters at this stage (Unless you count this army that Euron has gone to win over as new?), so they either give them death scenes that will make the characters and their arcs seem worthwhile, or it'll feel wasted. In the case of Jaime, I'm glad Cersei didn't have him taken out. It would have been such a waste of his arc. They might as well have made him drown earlier in the season if Cersei was going to have him wasted like that.
As for the rest of the ep, for me it felt like a proper GoT episode. All piece moving for the final play in Season 8, everyone working together on the same page (Except for Cersei of course, she wants to be the new Lysa) and the Whites have finally started marching beyond the Wall.
I know why you might feel like the show hasn't had a WTF moment but it's spent 6 years doing that already and doesn't need to be a show full of constant surprises anymore. It's all about the end game now and see who will actually survive this Winter after all...
Yeah I dunno maybe I'm being overly critical but it just didn't feel like the older seasons. There was just so much "filler" in recent past in the style of working towards the shows finale, that there is just so much anticipation building up and I'm almost certain they can't put up to that. I could be wrong but atm I'm just skeptical hippo. When you consider the following has happened, it doesn't sound so bad: - Arya’s revenge on Walder Frey
- Euron’s over-the-top attack on Yara’s fleet
- Cersei’s traumatic punishment of Ellaria Sand
- Olenna Tyrell turning her own death into a cool kiss-off
- Sam finding the most obvious, grisliest possible cure for Jorah’s grayscale
- the dragons laying waste to the Lannister army
- Dragon being killed and brought back as Whites
- Destruction of the Wall
- Baelish getting his comeuppance |
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Post by exokan on Aug 29, 2017 11:54:25 GMT -5
All I can basically add is that I hope the books don't go down this way when Martin finally gets around to writing them.
I know they're following his outline... but there's something missing from the last two seasons.
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Post by ironmonkey13 on Aug 29, 2017 12:33:49 GMT -5
The problem the show has though given it's storytelling plot twists over the years is that it's too late to bring in any new characters at this stage (Unless you count this army that Euron has gone to win over as new?), so they either give them death scenes that will make the characters and their arcs seem worthwhile, or it'll feel wasted. In the case of Jaime, I'm glad Cersei didn't have him taken out. It would have been such a waste of his arc. They might as well have made him drown earlier in the season if Cersei was going to have him wasted like that.
As for the rest of the ep, for me it felt like a proper GoT episode. All piece moving for the final play in Season 8, everyone working together on the same page (Except for Cersei of course, she wants to be the new Lysa) and the Whites have finally started marching beyond the Wall.
I know why you might feel like the show hasn't had a WTF moment but it's spent 6 years doing that already and doesn't need to be a show full of constant surprises anymore. It's all about the end game now and see who will actually survive this Winter after all...
Yeah I dunno maybe I'm being overly critical but it just didn't feel like the older seasons. There was just so much "filler" in recent past in the style of working towards the shows finale, that there is just so much anticipation building up and I'm almost certain they can't put up to that. I could be wrong but atm I'm just skeptical hippo. I think last two seasons have gone on super predictable rails. This one being worst so far in writing. Also characters are written more and more as goodies and baddies making them less interesting. I still like the series but I think it suffers from the awesome start that R.R. Martin wrote and can't keep up the standard anymore. |
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Post by sirmoshington on Aug 29, 2017 13:44:22 GMT -5
Yeah I dunno maybe I'm being overly critical but it just didn't feel like the older seasons. There was just so much "filler" in recent past in the style of working towards the shows finale, that there is just so much anticipation building up and I'm almost certain they can't put up to that. I could be wrong but atm I'm just skeptical hippo. When you consider the following has happened, it doesn't sound so bad: - Arya’s revenge on Walder Frey
- Euron’s over-the-top attack on Yara’s fleet
- Cersei’s traumatic punishment of Ellaria Sand
- Olenna Tyrell turning her own death into a cool kiss-off
- Sam finding the most obvious, grisliest possible cure for Jorah’s grayscale
- the dragons laying waste to the Lannister army
- Dragon being killed and brought back as Whites
- Destruction of the Wall
- Baelish getting his comeuppance Well I definitely disagree on Euron's attack, because where did that leave to? What about Yara? The killing of the dragon was so stupid, I mean the whole plot of that arc it just seems like they needed the Night King to get the dragon to...destroy the wall. What would they have done if they didn't get the dragon? Why didn't the Night King just kill Drogon and with that dooming all of the main characters on its back?
Yeah and well the whole killing of Baelish was just not as cool as getting him a propper ending. The whole Winterfell storyline this season was complete non-sense. Arya and Sansa were acting completely off character and then ploting all of this with Littlefinger off-screen was just weak. I mean the whole "argument" between Arya and Sansa just felt super stupid especially the whole coming in the room and "sentencing" her just to fuck Baelish. Poor writing if you ask me.
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Post by sirmoshington on Aug 29, 2017 13:50:57 GMT -5
Yeah I dunno maybe I'm being overly critical but it just didn't feel like the older seasons. There was just so much "filler" in recent past in the style of working towards the shows finale, that there is just so much anticipation building up and I'm almost certain they can't put up to that. I could be wrong but atm I'm just skeptical hippo. I think last two seasons have gone on super predictable rails. This one being worst so far in writing. Also characters are written more and more as goodies and baddies making them less interesting. I still like the series but I think it suffers from the awesome start that R.R. Martin wrote and can't keep up the standard anymore. Totally agree on that 100%. It just feels like fan service at this point. Super generic, poorly written story lines. I'm not going to say that I could have predicted everything that happened but at least 90% of this seasons big moments were super predictable. Putting that in comparison what made GoT off the rails awesome, this is just average. |
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Post by poembie on Aug 30, 2017 2:34:44 GMT -5
I feel like they were rushing the main story too much this season, there was hardly any suspense or mindfuckery, just one battle/revelation after the other... I would have liked to see more of Arya and Bran, two very interesting characters that didn't get enough screen time this season. I hope they don't continue this fan service trend and try to end on a high note during the last season (2019?).
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Post by stuartoxlade on Aug 30, 2017 4:25:21 GMT -5
Only 556 days to wait guys  |
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