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Post by tao on Dec 20, 2018 15:57:06 GMT -5
tao I very much liked this one. At first I thought it wasn't really for me but it kept growing as the song progressed. The song rose up into the chorus really well and the mixed vocals came across way better than most bands in this style tend to. My initial reaction is a strong 6 to weaker 7, but it's something I'll probably come back to. I'm going to break the mold just a bit and give the next commenter a choice - you only have to listen to & comment on one of these to keep the thread going. One is heavy and one is not. I'm very fond of both of these songs for their lyrical content in particular. Mosh song: Not mosh song: I enjoyed the way that Sufferer sound like a cross between The Blood Brothers and Silent Planet. It's elements of mathcore and metalcore with hints of poetic La Dispute hardcore. The melodic nature of that riff that runs throughout the song is catchy as shit. Ive never gotten into these guys, but I'm definitely going to look into them after listening to this. I really enjoy the lyrics too, as they're very much in tune with the anxiety and depression laced feeling of the music. Great song Corvus . That’s some delicious post-metal going on there; would fit right in next to some Russian Circles. Keeping with your theme, I’ll throw in some post-metal as well. I like these guys (and gals), and I’ll keep plugging them every now and again.
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Post by tao on Dec 30, 2018 8:08:33 GMT -5
I think I killed the thread this time....
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Post by v9733xa on Dec 30, 2018 13:08:43 GMT -5
Okay i'll bite. I can't say that i care much for that song. I have listened to some post-metal, but it usually needs to have more of an edge for me to really enjoy it. Isis, Pelican, etc. Sometimes i can appreciate a band like Godspeed You! Black Emperor but it's hit or miss. They get props for talent, for sure, and i've never heard of them so at least i'll recognize the name now. But i'd almost certainly never listen to an artist like that again. PERHAPS, if i was reading or working on something at home. But i'd rather just put on DJ Shadow or something. Though as always, tao, i appreciate your perspective and your eclectic tastes in all sorts of things. I'm digging deep in the well this one: There were many years where i considered this my very favorite song of all time. A deep track from 311's Soundsystem album, turning 20 years old in 2019, this ditty features all that is great about a misunderstood band who are super underrated for crossing five or six genres in their 30+ year careers. This was unquestionably my favorite group for most of my teenage and adult life, and in a very nostalgic sense they still are a little.
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Post by stringypoo on Dec 31, 2018 8:53:57 GMT -5
I remember when that 311 album came out. They were madly popular in my friend circle, but I tried to listen a few times and didn’t get the appeal, granted most of them weren’t new fans of 311. As for me listening to this song, the first two minutes meant nothing to me. The middle section to the end, however, were great. That was a cool audio trip. The electronic stuff and pitch shifting was really fun. Had a late 90’s feel overall, which is something I often appreciate. Cool pick. I finally listened to 311 again.
I’m picking a Black Sabbath song for mine. Some call them the first metal band. Ozzy will always say that they were not a metal band. Just hard rockers. Whatever you call them, this is probably my favorite song of theirs (notably with Ronnie James Dio on vocals, not Ozzy), and is one of the few songs so perfect in my opinion that it brings me to tears upon completion, as overly sensitive and stupid as that probably sounds. Heaven And Hell is one hell of a great album! This is my most listened to song in my entire library.
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Post by tao on Jan 1, 2019 13:06:24 GMT -5
That was pretty good. Admittedly, I had stopped listening to Black Sabbath once I got to their “Sabotage” album, which many consider their last “good” album featuring the original lineup, and never really cared/bothered to listen to the Dio-era of Sabbath. Now that I’ve heard this, I might give this album a whirl and see how the rest is. I liked the time changes in here and how it kind of signified the Heaven and Hell in the title.
Gonna pull a Corvus here and offer up 2 songs, and whoever goes next can choose:
I’ve been a fan of Stone Sour for a bit, with their double album “The House Of Gold And Bone pts. I & II” and their self-titled album being particular standouts. This is the last track off said self-titled album, and an effective way to close out the album. I’ve always enjoyed that Corey Taylor speaks his mind and (almost) always shoots straight when giving an opinion.
Let’s get stupid, shall we?
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Post by tao on Jan 5, 2019 22:15:21 GMT -5
Should I add a third choice?
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Post by stringypoo on Jan 6, 2019 0:44:01 GMT -5
Lol tao, we totes don’t need three, but since you submitted three, I’ll say a little about each! Hahaha Stone Sour- Eh, I’m not a fan of Stone Sour. Was a fan of Slipknot when I first liked metal, and I liked a few Stone Sour songs back then as well. However, I have absolutely mixed feelings about Corey Taylor as one who makes political commentary now. On the one hand, if you are not happy with politics today, you have only so many options, mainly ignore and move on with daily life, or challenge the system. Challenging the system makes a lot more sense when you’re a celebrity of any status because you’re going to get heard way more. However, I found elements of his track you posted a little bit immature-sounding. Then again, it’s through the medium of a music album, so I guess I shouldn’t expect anything less. It was effective, but not to my liking I guess. Life is a Rock- Fun track! I liked the name drops in the “rapping” sections of the song. Well, not much music depth to it, so there’s not much else to say about it, but I enjoyed that the most of the three songs you posted! NoGoD- Nothing wrong with this track, really. For my tastes, maybe it is a minute too long. Reminds me of a number of Japanese bands of the power metal area, especially Dollboxx. Their song “Take My Chance” is a keeper. I think this band here is not bad at all. Just not enough there for me to likely return to it, based on my current tastes trend at least. Okay, for my post, I’m going to post Black Breath, the title track from the 2015 album, Slaves Beyond Death. I always liked metal a lot, but this was an album that plunged me much deeper into metal fascination, despite the fact that hardcore has always been a trait of Black Breath’s sound. Prior to 2015, I still listened to -core sub genres. This album was their most metal effort yet, and paid tribute to many great death metal acts. But this should appeal to those of you who also like hardcore.
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Post by tao on Jan 6, 2019 2:54:50 GMT -5
Lol the thread lives on!
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Post by v9733xa on Jan 7, 2019 19:32:49 GMT -5
Oooh that's some grinding crunchy metal! Oh man and the double bass kicks in! Woof!
I like that stuff, it's got this old-school vibe to it in a way. This is a very unique song, i think? I dunno, maybe i just haven't been finding enough different stuff on my own (you know, not like i have enough to listen to, like 800+ albums still to unzip). But do you know this incredible grindcore band Trap Them? This band totally sounds like if Trap Them tried to be a sludge metal band. Really really cool, this crust vibe to it. I'm not sure if i want a whole album of this, but i'm very intrigued. Probably the best song anybody has posted here so far. Awesome!
Let's go with another one of those "important" songs for me:
When i was in college i had this roommate my last two years. Nick was in a band and liked all sorts of rock music, soft to hard, old to new, radio to obscure. And he introduced me to Liquid Tension Experiment -- before he introduced me to Dream Theater, because he knew i would like this more -- and this was the first song he played for me. I got OBSESSED with it. I have this crazy thing memorized even though i cannot play any instruments. Watch me finger drum and air guitar to this shit, boys. I will destroy you. So this totally got me into progressive metal! Soon after came Dream Theater themselves -- for whose who don't know, this is the band minus the lead singer on their second instrumental album -- and then much more extreme experimental music. But it always comes back to "Acid Rain" for me.
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Post by tao on Jan 13, 2019 6:46:48 GMT -5
Oooh that's some grinding crunchy metal! Oh man and the double bass kicks in! Woof! I like that stuff, it's got this old-school vibe to it in a way. This is a very unique song, i think? I dunno, maybe i just haven't been finding enough different stuff on my own (you know, not like i have enough to listen to, like 800+ albums still to unzip). But do you know this incredible grindcore band Trap Them? This band totally sounds like if Trap Them tried to be a sludge metal band. Really really cool, this crust vibe to it. I'm not sure if i want a whole album of this, but i'm very intrigued. Probably the best song anybody has posted here so far. Awesome! Let's go with another one of those "important" songs for me: When i was in college i had this roommate my last two years. Nick was in a band and liked all sorts of rock music, soft to hard, old to new, radio to obscure. And he introduced me to Liquid Tension Experiment -- before he introduced me to Dream Theater, because he knew i would like this more -- and this was the first song he played for me. I got OBSESSED with it. I have this crazy thing memorized even though i cannot play any instruments. Watch me finger drum and air guitar to this shit, boys. I will destroy you. So this totally got me into progressive metal! Soon after came Dream Theater themselves -- for whose who don't know, this is the band minus the lead singer on their second instrumental album -- and then much more extreme experimental music. But it always comes back to "Acid Rain" for me. That was fantastic! I never knew about this band until now, and now I’ve got to hear more. I’m a sucker for (most) prog metal, and even more so if it’s instrumental, because then so much more focus is placed on the instrumentality, the melody, the technicality, etc. and this had it all in spades. Thanks very much for sharing! ... Also, I’d like to see you do a multi-cam “playthrough” video of this with air instruments. Jus’ saying. OK, for my next choice I’m going to go with a band I’ve never really listened to until last year, but their latest album made it into my honorable mentions list. I may be mislabeling them, but Unlucky Morpheus is a Neoclassical Metal group that often throw in gothic tones and structures into their music. The interesting part here is that it’s not a “full-time” band, per se, but actually it’s like a one-off project whenever the musicians feel like it. This track is interesting because when it was released, they said that the second part of the song is exactly the same as the first, but backwards. Now, I don’t know if that’s true or not, but i find the conceit to be interesting. Also, this group has one of my favorite singers anywhere in here. Her name is Fuki, and she’s been in another neoclassical speed(?) metal band called Lightbringer and also in another one-off project called Doll$boxx; I love her voice to bits and pieces, it’s so strong, commanding and operatic. I can listen to anything she’s in any day of the week. If you’ve got the time, you should also check their song called “Black Pentagram”; awesome stuff.
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Post by stringypoo on Jan 14, 2019 6:39:05 GMT -5
Unlucky Morpheus is a band I’ve been familiar with, as I am also with Doll$boxx and Lightbringer. I was totally at a high level of fascination with the girls behind Doll$boxx about 3 or 4 years ago, if not a little more, which is probably incredibly hard to believe, given my decrepit and old tastes in music. Hahaha! Neoclassical fits just fine, as would power metal. Japan is incredibly hit or miss for me as far as their music scenes in metal go. The first Babymetal album was huge for me. The second one was a total flop in contrast. Fuki here is a great singer, no doubt. The commentary that the second half of this song was in reverse had me intrigued. From what I could tell after careful study, I have no reason to dispute the claim, which is really an awesome idea, and it plays out beautifully, especially in the solos. That kind of result cannot be so easily achieved, as I have had to do composition work with pallindromic properties such as this, and it’s not so easy to get it to sound good going backwards. Ambitious as hell. Cool post~
Okay, I’m going ridiculously decrepit with this one. Autopsy are one of my top 5 bands for many reasons. They’re real old school death metal. How old school? They’ve been around since 1987, and they’re still going. Vocalist/drummer Chris Reifert in fact was the drummer for the very first death metal album in history (that is if you are in the camp that Death’s first album is the first death metal album, not Possessed’s Seven Churches album). He is also an incredibly engaging vocalist in my opinion. In fact, this song here has stuck with me as one of the most captivating moments in music because I deem this the best vocal performance in death metal history. In this song, he literally sounds like a tortured, hallucinating psychopath ripping out his own eyes. That also happens to be somewhat the imagery suggested in the lyrics. Speaking of the lyrics, pull them up for a real trip while listening to this, and see the masterful matching of music atmosphere to lyrical horror.
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Post by tao on Jan 20, 2019 10:58:47 GMT -5
The track wasn’t terrible, but because (I think) I haven’t really delved in this specific genre I honestly didn’t care for it very much. The instrumentality was on point, no doubt, but the vocals for me were somewhat flat and rote. I think this is also the reason why I don’t jive with a lot of hardcore music, because the vocals don’t have as much melodic influence and variety in them as other genres. Maybe in time I can get into this better. Solid choice though.
I think I’ve said it before, but growing up I and my siblings were homeschooled, and in order to promote a more conducive environment to learning and studying, my parents only allowed us to listen to classical, jazz and soundtracks when we were doing schoolwork, and for a period of time (5-6 years) I took piano lessons, so even though I may post a crap ton of rock and metal here, my “first love”, musically, will always be towards classical music. In a way, without classical music we wouldn’t have all the different styles of music we do have today, you know? and because of my background with it and my music lessons am I able to appreciate and enjoy music in general better than I had before, mainly because I can read and understand music, follow melody, etc. I’d post my favorite piece, Stravinsky’s “The Rites Of Spring”, but that’s too long, as well as Gustav Holst’s “The Planets”, so I’ll just leave Erik Satie’s “Gymnopedies 3 & 1” here for you guys to listen to and relax to.
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Post by v9733xa on Jan 20, 2019 13:34:58 GMT -5
Classical music is great, and piano-based is my favorite probably. I have zero knowledge of the genre though (other than platitudes of "oh that's good!"), but i had at least heard of that composer and composition before. I can't say that i had listened to it in any time in the past, but it immediately seemed recognizable.
One of the reasons it stuck with me, other than the beautiful playing of course, was this feeling of "shit, this is really recognizable, like i almost feel like i've heard it in a song before." That turned out not quite true but also pretty close, because that composition is strikingly similar to the piano interludes on the intro and first song of the seminal metalcore masterpiece by Skycamefalling from the year 2000, 10.21. I'll present that song, "With Paper Wings," below:
I discovered this band like i did most of the first heavy music i knew in college in 2001 and 2002 (thank you, high-speed internet connection). Ferret Music's discography from the early 2000s is incredible: Killswitch Engage, For the Love Of, Blood Has Been Shed, Every Time I Die, From Autumn to Ashes, Remembering Never, Scarlet, Funeral for a Friend, A Static Lullaby, Misery Signals; all with album releases in a span of 4 years. Yeah, like, this record label and Trustkill Records teamed up to shape my musical tastes for the rest of my life, at least thus far.
Skycamefalling hold a special place in my and many others' hearts because they were so brilliant and transcended the genre, and then almost completely disappeared after one perfect full-length album. Before any of the cookie cutter metalcore nonsense of the rest of the decade, this album perfected the sound and experimentation with a rawness that also felt defined and with a sense of polish. That first song, and the two final tracks on the album (I suggest you find the whole thing), sum up this incredible band who could have done so much more, but instead have a single album that is untouched almost two decades later.
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Post by stringypoo on Jan 21, 2019 20:35:19 GMT -5
Skycamefalling fell through the cracks for me somehow, as I had never heard them before, despite having heard all the other bands you mentioned off of Ferret Music's roster. In fact, back in those days, I had purchased nearly album Ferret, Trustkill, Epitaph, and Victory records put out. The marketing strategies were incredible, often putting little inserts advertising new albums by similar bands, or including sampler discs in each new case, especially used by Victory records. So this brings me back to a wonderful time in my past in which I cared about digital media very differently than I do today.
Skycamefalling have that late 90's/early 2000's aesthetic for sure. It's abrasive, raw, emotionally charged, and honest sounding. I can appreciate this on some level, especially as a time piece of the era. I caught bits of early Misery Signals mixed with Nora and some other bands of the like. With my newfound love and dependency on the metal riff in my music, I can't say this does anything amazing for me, but it is a nice share, and I enjoyed it.
For my share, I'm going to do High on Fire. My introduction to this band was a Relapse Records sampler which featured their song, "Devilution," which has a wonderful drum opening. Well, I'm not posting that song. lol. In fact, I moved to a future album for this post. I did not like High on Fire when I first heard them. I did not like them on my fifth time listening to their music. Shit, I probably didn't understand the appeal of their sound on the 20th listen for all I know. But what is funny is that everything they've ever released, if I listen to it a few times, it always grows on me and becomes incredibly important in my library. Since I just shared that I had trouble enjoying this band on first tries, I'm not going to post one of their difficult listens. "Snakes for the Divine" is easily one of their most digestible songs. I doubt I can explain my reasoning for loving this band clearly, as nobody else who loves them has ever been able to explain it to me in a way that I can agree with. However, I can't help it. They are awesome. And the new record is still growing on me and turning into a banger.
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Post by tao on Jan 22, 2019 4:14:08 GMT -5
Haha, the moment the vocals hit, it made me think that it sounded like Lemmy was trying to sing through a bout of laryngitis. I'm finding it interesting that little by little, the vocals are becoming more and more of a deal breaker for me, as again, the instrumentality was on point; if it was an instrumental track, it would be a banger, and dat bass! So dirty! But the vocals are holding me back from truly enjoying this more than I really want to. Maybe I'm in the same boat and it'll take me some time before it grows on me... I first found out about these guys through watching an anime film (I know, original, right?), but I remember back then trying to find more than just individual songs of theirs on youtube; their mix of rock with electronic samples and elements was just aurally intoxicating to me, and I wanted to hear more. Nowadays, they're one of my most favorite artists I've ever heard, and one of the few artists I would've killed to see live. Unfortunately, Kawashima Michiyuki, the lead vocalist and guitarist, died several years ago due to the effects of a recurring brain tumor, so sadly, my wish to see them live will remain just that, a wish. Hope though you enjoy the track. 
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