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Post by blizeh on Mar 8, 2020 8:21:10 GMT -5
lol I'm glad someone noticed that mullet. Agreed that China is incredibly beautiful though, I'd love to go sometime (obviously not any time soon!)
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Post by Zeke on Mar 8, 2020 10:06:18 GMT -5
It's really hard to tell what's happening. I think a lot of people are panicking in Europe, and it looks like nobody really knows how to do anything. I was in the US for a week and came back to Poland with a connection in Frankfurt (50 minutes, made sure not to touch anything and disinfected my hands before and after). My employer formally requested me to work from home for two weeks, then I called my private medical care who said I should self-isolate for two weeks. Polish ministry of health says no need to stay at home, unless I was in China, South Korea, Italy, Iran, Hong Kong or Japan. Plus my girlfriend lives with me, so then what's the point, where is she supposed to go?
For me the uncertainty of the whole situation is the worst. And not being able to scratch your face - never realized how difficult that is.
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Post by blizeh on Mar 8, 2020 18:16:10 GMT -5
Same here! Trying so hard to not touch my face, didn’t realise how often I did it before
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Post by Calvinball on Mar 8, 2020 19:43:43 GMT -5
Not touching my face is impossible, I have three unconscious ticks with my hands I either play with my beard, my glasses, or my watch. Two of said options are the face and I won't be able to stop.
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Post by stuartoxlade on Mar 9, 2020 3:19:42 GMT -5
Cases in the UK are steadily on the rise and we've had our first two deaths from the virus in the past week. It hasn't impacted me yet but I think that could change soon. I wouldn't mind self-isolating - I've got a pretty big Netflix and gaming backlog to get through  My work involves employee communications, so we're having to do some scenario planning at the moment. It's given me an appreciation for how big of an impact a pandemic can have on family life, the economy, supply chains, etc. I know some people are of the view that 'unless your body sucks you'll be fine' but that totally ignores the bigger picture. My first world coronavirus problems are that I'm currently putting off booking a holiday/vacation until we have a clearer picture of what's going to happen, and hoping Man City vs Real Madrid doesn't get played behind closed doors because I've been looking forward to it for weeks. I've got a weekend booked in Nottingham in 2 weeks. Do I still go? I can cancel up to 24 hours prior without getting charged on my hotel but if I'm gonna catch this thing then I'm just as likely to get it where I live as I would be travelling up North for a weekend. As it is I've just come back from watching Leeds United at the weekend and sitting with 36,500 people for 90 mins won't have helped my chances.
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Post by stuartoxlade on Mar 9, 2020 3:20:58 GMT -5
Not touching my face is impossible, I have three unconscious ticks with my hands I either play with my beard, my glasses, or my watch. Two of said options are the face and I won't be able to stop. I've been touching my face whilst reading this
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Post by stringypoo on Mar 9, 2020 6:12:56 GMT -5
I think we are looking at our future plans and rationalizing things based on ourselves and the risks we face. The statistics among the deaths favor people in our age groups as being less likely to die of this. But perhaps we should make our decisions also based on the likelihood that while it may not hit us as hard as those older than us, it does still spread very easily from anyone. The key to controlling the situation is to control it from spreading as much as possible. The more we take risks in groups outside the more we risk spreading it into numbers that are harder to get under control. Sure, it means living in a way that you didn’t plan on for an I calculated time frame, but considering anyone can carry the virus and pass it along, I think staying in and playing safe for a while is reasonable. I have been inside this apartment in Shanghai for almost a month and a half now. It’s making me a little anxious being inside all the time, but it is good to see Shanghai controlling the situation and the number of cases here going down. Last I saw here, only in Wuhan are the new cases still at a high number. People will criticize how China has handled the outbreak, and I see continuous criticism daily, but I personally think they are doing a great job, and probably much more than my home country will do for their people. But time will tell.
One thing that frustrates me right now (not seeing it here by the way, but I see it on the internet and on social media) is the whole tough guy act about it. Like people who think they are untouchable by the virus, or that it couldn’t harm them anyway. This just isn’t the time for ignorant bravery. And it pisses me off.
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Post by stuartoxlade on Mar 9, 2020 6:55:08 GMT -5
I think people just assume it'll be no worse than the common cold. I guess more could be done to tell people about how it makes you feel if you do have it to stomp out that mentality
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Post by stringypoo on Mar 9, 2020 9:29:28 GMT -5
I think people just assume it'll be no worse than the common cold. I guess more could be done to tell people about how it makes you feel if you do have it to stomp out that mentality That’s the thing. Many people are looking at it like it’s no worse than a cold, and they mentality is creating potentially more dangerous outcomes. I don’t know how to change the fact some people view this virus that way. Especially my fellow Americans. They still support our president despite all the shit he did and does, and when he goes out to the podium and tells the American people that there are fewer cases than actuality in the US, it’s misinformation that an unfortunately high number of people swallow as fact. How do I know this? My whole family back home minus my parents are all Trump diehards, who also happen to be deeply religious. Trump “can’t do wrong because he’s a man of God” kind of mentality... prevents people from seeing the truth, and in the case of this virus it might unnecessarily cost a lot of lives. Glad I’m not there right now actually. I’d be more scared there.
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Post by Calvinball on Mar 9, 2020 10:24:23 GMT -5
I think people just assume it'll be no worse than the common cold. I guess more could be done to tell people about how it makes you feel if you do have it to stomp out that mentality That’s the thing. Many people are looking at it like it’s no worse than a cold, and they mentality is creating potentially more dangerous outcomes. I don’t know how to change the fact some people view this virus that way. Especially my fellow Americans. They still support our president despite all the shit he did and does, and when he goes out to the podium and tells the American people that there are fewer cases than actuality in the US, it’s misinformation that an unfortunately high number of people swallow as fact. How do I know this? My whole family back home minus my parents are all Trump diehards, who also happen to be deeply religious. Trump “can’t do wrong because he’s a man of God” kind of mentality... prevents people from seeing the truth, and in the case of this virus it might unnecessarily cost a lot of lives. Glad I’m not there right now actually. I’d be more scared there. I have a more lax attitude about it and it's not about me being tough or bulletproof it's just math. Even in Wuhan it's only been contracted by about 5% of the population and has a mortality rate around 3%. Sure maybe it's easier to have that lax attitude in a part of the country that isn't in panic. But the way I see it more people are going to die this year from opioid overdoses than corona. Maybe I'm wrong, either way I can't wait for this thing to pass. Then we just get to sit back and wonder about all the idiots who aren't going to have their kids vaccinated for this.
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Post by blizeh on Mar 9, 2020 10:56:56 GMT -5
Wow that’s some impressive time wasting haha
Essien you’re in the U.K. too? 4 deaths here now :/
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Post by blizeh on Mar 9, 2020 10:58:11 GMT -5
Feels like the UK government is way underplaying this, there’s a case confirmed in Cheltenham near me, and yet cheltenham races is still going ahead tomorrow :/
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Post by essien on Mar 9, 2020 12:49:39 GMT -5
That’s the thing. Many people are looking at it like it’s no worse than a cold, and they mentality is creating potentially more dangerous outcomes. I don’t know how to change the fact some people view this virus that way. Especially my fellow Americans. They still support our president despite all the shit he did and does, and when he goes out to the podium and tells the American people that there are fewer cases than actuality in the US, it’s misinformation that an unfortunately high number of people swallow as fact. How do I know this? My whole family back home minus my parents are all Trump diehards, who also happen to be deeply religious. Trump “can’t do wrong because he’s a man of God” kind of mentality... prevents people from seeing the truth, and in the case of this virus it might unnecessarily cost a lot of lives. Glad I’m not there right now actually. I’d be more scared there. I have a more lax attitude about it and it's not about me being tough or bulletproof it's just math. Even in Wuhan it's only been contracted by about 5% of the population and has a mortality rate around 3%. Sure maybe it's easier to have that lax attitude in a part of the country that isn't in panic. But the way I see it more people are going to die this year from opioid overdoses than corona. Maybe I'm wrong, either way I can't wait for this thing to pass. Then we just get to sit back and wonder about all the idiots who aren't going to have their kids vaccinated for this. I think it's fine to be relaxed about it, but we still need to take it seriously. In the UK alone, a full-on outbreak is estimated to kill 100,000 people who would have otherwise lived longer lives. This isn't just old people who were already on their death beds, it's people with underlying health conditions who could be in the prime of their life. We should be doing what we can to protect these people. It doesn't help that we have popularist leaders trying to downplay it.
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Post by essien on Mar 9, 2020 12:51:38 GMT -5
Wow that’s some impressive time wasting haha Essien you’re in the U.K. too? 4 deaths here now :/ I am, yep. We've had quite a few cases in Manchester and one death over the weekend. I'm still going about my day as normal and others seem to be too.
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Post by Zeke on Mar 9, 2020 13:57:07 GMT -5
That’s the thing. Many people are looking at it like it’s no worse than a cold, and they mentality is creating potentially more dangerous outcomes. I don’t know how to change the fact some people view this virus that way. Especially my fellow Americans. They still support our president despite all the shit he did and does, and when he goes out to the podium and tells the American people that there are fewer cases than actuality in the US, it’s misinformation that an unfortunately high number of people swallow as fact. How do I know this? My whole family back home minus my parents are all Trump diehards, who also happen to be deeply religious. Trump “can’t do wrong because he’s a man of God” kind of mentality... prevents people from seeing the truth, and in the case of this virus it might unnecessarily cost a lot of lives. Glad I’m not there right now actually. I’d be more scared there. I have a more lax attitude about it and it's not about me being tough or bulletproof it's just math. Even in Wuhan it's only been contracted by about 5% of the population and has a mortality rate around 3%. Sure maybe it's easier to have that lax attitude in a part of the country that isn't in panic. But the way I see it more people are going to die this year from opioid overdoses than corona. Maybe I'm wrong, either way I can't wait for this thing to pass. Then we just get to sit back and wonder about all the idiots who aren't going to have their kids vaccinated for this. That's one of my concerns that they won't find a vaccine for it, just like they never did for SARS.
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